Brawl involving rival motorcycle groups led to a shooting that left two men dead at a Sunnyslope convenience store, according to police who released the victims' names Thursday. Investigators described the unidentified groups as gangs, although others suggested they were unlike outlaw groups commonly tied to biker violence.
Some police described the groups as substance-free organizations purportedly geared toward recovering addicts looking to ride with other sober motorcycle enthusiasts. John Lindenman, 43, and Bradley Lutzo, 45, suffered fatal gunshot wounds during an 11 p.m. brawl in a QuikTrip parking lot on Tuesday. No arrests have been made, and the deaths are under investigation, according to police.
Neither Lindenman or Lutzo had criminal records in Arizona.Phoenix Detective Cindy Scott said the department will not release the names of the groups, citing its policy on withholding the identifications of documented criminal street gangs.
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I agree with your frustration at this mesrepresentation. I was at one time associated with the same group that John was a very prominent member of and it is in no way a gang. He is one of the best people that I have ever known and my feelings of sadness for his family and his wife are indescribeable. His murder was senseless and ridiculous. The people who did this have no idea what they took away. I am so sorry for your loss.
AS A FRIEND OF BOTH THE VICTIMS.. U GO MY 3 SONS!! UNARMED MEN WORKING HARD AND SUCCESFULY IN A PROGRAM OF HONESTY! 100% CLEAN AND SOBER FOR MANY 24 HOURS BETWEEN THEM. IF ANYONE EVER NEEDED HELP THESE TWO WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TO HELP A BROTHER OR A SISTER!! ANY HOUR OF THE DAY. RIDE ON BROTHERS
boys from the midwest just couldnt back there talk.
John was a wonderful man, and a great mentor to people in recovery. He and his wonderful wife are the most loving, caring, honorable people I know. To speak unkindly of him is simply uncalled for. When did riding with your brothers and celebrating recovery become so violent. At what point do adult men stop being able to work out their differences without resorting to this kind of violence. Shame on the people that made the chioce to take these lives. My your families never have to feel the pain that these two families are feeling now. Rest in peace John & Brad, knowing that you made such a wonderful impact on those who called you friend.
apparently onroad didn't know Brad.
they must have been backing it up pretty good if u had to shoot them.
what a stud!
booohoooo
you just like to here yourself and be the center of atention.he wouldnt support anyone that wasnt in a.r.m. and with fam like you i can see why he wanted to move so far away from home. my nephew.my nephew. bla bla. a.r.m said they would take care of this. they cant take care of a wet dream.
and i have all the info i need thanks, whos going to support his pill popin wife now?
about time u shut up. he got what he deserved playin billy badass biker wanabe.
just as i thought your all talk just like your nephew. at least you know when to shut your piehole.
as usual ... it's the people with the biggest mouths and bad attitudes that run off the good folk. You win onroad, here's a dime ... go call some one who cares
you see here my3sons nobody seems to give a shit what you say.
and by the way a.r.m. couldnt slaughter a fly!!!!
Yeah dipshit... i guess it runs in the family. Shoot me then tough guy
let me be like onroad and have to make 3 comments because i couldn't think of what to say the first time!!!!
And somebody has already commented on how intelligent you sound.... but lozer....? a loser that can't spell loser.. hmmm look at that
thanx veggiefairie... i just couldn't sit there and not say anything.. I am done however. There are just some damn ingnorant people in the world. And it's sad. He probably doesn't know either one of them and is just out there to make a fucking scene. I got out what i needed to get out and I am done. Thank you
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